tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4266200265116124990.post2883136392639771985..comments2024-03-04T09:54:17.670+00:00Comments on Goblin Lee's Miniatures Blog. : 85,000+ views and Pygmies with Blowpipes. Goblin Leehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14931436821182962785noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4266200265116124990.post-89429542661375356002015-10-08T21:22:37.695+01:002015-10-08T21:22:37.695+01:00Thank you,
I have painted up a few of them to try ...Thank you,<br />I have painted up a few of them to try out the war paint idea, and just to get a few of them painted up for the fun of it. I think it's worked out quite well, and distracted from the design of the miniatures without detracting from thier character. <br />I am switching projects for Orctober, but will return the the jungles of Lustria at some point soon.<br />Glad you liked them.<br />Goblin Leehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14931436821182962785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4266200265116124990.post-40923356912836631442015-10-08T07:44:13.306+01:002015-10-08T07:44:13.306+01:00Wow pygmies, I didn't honestly think I'd s...Wow pygmies, I didn't honestly think I'd see them painted up ever; low and behold, only you goblin Lee..<br />the paintjobs are great, the figures are pretty hysterical. Congrats on the milestone all the best for the future! 24_Cigaretteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14235772450092467367noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4266200265116124990.post-53590700844353564002015-10-06T22:40:03.900+01:002015-10-06T22:40:03.900+01:00Thank you Lee. I agree and understand every point ...Thank you Lee. I agree and understand every point you have made above and at no time felt I was being attacked or entering into an argument.<br /><br />I continue to be an avid follower of your blog.riot villehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02352546766599695684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4266200265116124990.post-46260645810186329362015-10-06T22:36:36.651+01:002015-10-06T22:36:36.651+01:00It's good to know that there's a lot of pe...It's good to know that there's a lot of people who like Goblins out there! <br /><br />I have taken no offence at anything you've said, and hope visa versa. I perfectly understand, respect, and share your disquiet about the C27 Pygmies. In fact I was uncomfortable with them at the time. I have no wish to get into any kind of argument about the range at all. <br /><br />I was concerned over any offence I might cause before I posted this update. As stated the post is more for to show these miniatures in the context of being the actual 1980's miniatures used as Allies for my 1980's Slann army. Also it is to show that in light of the sensitivity of the sculpts I have devised a painted scheme which I feel mitigates and lessens the racial look of the models whilst linking with the look and feel of the Slann and Lustria.<br /><br />I agree that they have no place in modern gaming, but only in the context of retro collecting and gaming. Kallistras 'Pygmies are terrible, and if someone wanted to collect Pygmy Allies I could only suggest Wargames Foundry. <br /><br />Thank you for your wishes for my blog. Goblin Leehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14931436821182962785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4266200265116124990.post-26388485494183556822015-10-06T21:53:57.648+01:002015-10-06T21:53:57.648+01:00Sorry to have confused you with someone else Lee. ...Sorry to have confused you with someone else Lee. It must have been another Goblin fanatic! There are quite a few.<br /><br />I understand they are part of your collection of miniatures of the time (1980's) and I do truly understand that you have no intent to offend and are just presenting them as a collector of miniatures from the 1980's. However I hope you understand I just find these really distasteful, no different to vintage, cast iron, Happy N***** money boxes or some of the old images found on 'Mix and match' cards. Even as a kid I would look at illustrations in Asterix books of Black people and wince. <br /><br />I am in agreement with you about companies such as Kallistra who continue to produce these type of miniatures in the modern age but I feel people still continuing to collect the miniatures from the 1980's (and their popularity), helps fuel the market for modern companies to continue to produce them. If the market did not exsist the product would disappear if due to no other reson then it was not profitable to make them.<br /><br />I am not trying to get into any kind of argument with you or intend to attack you personally but just wanted congratulate you on your 85,000 mile stone but voice a personal discomfort with this type of miniature regardless of it's era.<br /><br />I wish you and your blog every success.riot villehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02352546766599695684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4266200265116124990.post-87521193918025740562015-10-06T21:27:29.863+01:002015-10-06T21:27:29.863+01:00Cool thank you Ed, I enjoyed painted them and doin...Cool thank you Ed, I enjoyed painted them and doing the warpaint. The whole Slann army, including the Pygmies, have a lot of scope for creativity and bright paint schemes. Goblin Leehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14931436821182962785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4266200265116124990.post-22468305227393874502015-10-06T21:23:54.130+01:002015-10-06T21:23:54.130+01:00Thank you,
I have added the war paint to the pygmi...Thank you,<br />I have added the war paint to the pygmies both to try to tone down any racial element to the miniatures, as well as linking them closer to the Slann/Lustrian background, and the general South American aesthetic. Goblin Leehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14931436821182962785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4266200265116124990.post-4943211416303096302015-10-06T21:18:24.558+01:002015-10-06T21:18:24.558+01:00Thank you for the congrats on the views.
I agree...Thank you for the congrats on the views. <br /><br />I agree, they are'nt 'modern' miniatures. I have the Pygmies soley because they are the miniatures of the time and from the time of my 1980's Slann army. I would'nt buy them as a new range now. Indeed their modern version, the Pax Limpop Pygmies, I find very distasteful. These Pygmies are part of a historical collection, from my time when collecting and gaming in the 1980's. If Citadel had produced different sculpt in the 1980's for the Slann Aliies, I would have collected them instead. <br /><br />No offence is intended, and I am fully aware of the racial perceptions of them. I would probably only consider use them in gaming against my long term friend from the 1980's Justin, or bring them to BOYL as a curosity ally to my Slann army. <br /><br />Glad you love the blog. By the way, I have never attended a BOYL (yet!), so you must be confusing me with someone else. Goblin Leehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14931436821182962785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4266200265116124990.post-49658513905338926112015-10-06T21:02:30.469+01:002015-10-06T21:02:30.469+01:00Absolutely love them Lee. Nice to see your usual c...Absolutely love them Lee. Nice to see your usual creativity with colour schemes and patterns. Shaitanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06133644752973972045noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4266200265116124990.post-15390615353809134722015-10-06T20:55:33.595+01:002015-10-06T20:55:33.595+01:00Terrific work on these great figs, Goblin Lee! I...Terrific work on these great figs, Goblin Lee! I think you have succeeded most admirably in what you tried to accomplish! private w.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13382664057092304789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4266200265116124990.post-58824659480800283482015-10-06T20:11:29.392+01:002015-10-06T20:11:29.392+01:00Congrats on the 85,000 + views.
As for the pygmie...Congrats on the 85,000 + views.<br /><br />As for the pygmies. . . . I understand what you have tried to achieve but I still think they should be consigned to the vaults.<br /><br />If I walked into a club and saw those on the table I would simply not want to play against them. I think if I was playing against a black fella would I be able to look him in the eye if I was fielding this army? Also imagine a young, black gamer stumbled across this stuff. What would it say about his new hobby and more importantly about older gamers?<br /><br />Love the blog and having meet you at BOYL I know it is not your intention to offend anyone and I understand you have tried to steer away from the racial undertones but I fail to see a place for these figures in the modern game.riot villehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02352546766599695684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4266200265116124990.post-16593987800532567842015-10-06T18:17:40.418+01:002015-10-06T18:17:40.418+01:00Thank you Zhu Bajiee,
I am glad you like the Pygm...Thank you Zhu Bajiee, <br />I am glad you like the Pygmies and the Mexican and Amazonian influences. I was playing around with paint schemes and thought that Mexican skulls would link to the Slann and Lustria quite nicely. With our discussion about the Olmec, I wanted to give at least one or two of the Pygmy tribes a more Meso-American feel. <br /><br />I did'nt know that about the Matses. I thought that the Amazonian face paint would look good and suggest South American jungle Indians.<br /> <br />I have really enjoyed painting them, and have painted up a couple of test models for other units. I took your advice, and whilst not painting Olmec symbols, I have painted a few of the shields more colourfully. Goblin Leehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14931436821182962785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4266200265116124990.post-17543216468754779342015-10-06T15:57:18.758+01:002015-10-06T15:57:18.758+01:00Mexican sugar skull warpaint on pygmies is inspiri...Mexican sugar skull warpaint on pygmies is inspiring, as is the Matses style black and red face-paint which really brings home the amazonian theme, and as the Matses use tree-frog poison as a ritual and hunting psychoactive ingredient, makes them a perfect ally for the Slann. Bravo!Zhu Bajieehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13945636483237344750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4266200265116124990.post-29886155005588250912015-10-06T13:26:57.230+01:002015-10-06T13:26:57.230+01:00Thank you JB.
I think I have toned down the carac...Thank you JB. <br />I think I have toned down the caracture nature of the miniatures and at the same time given them a more Lustrian look. Goblin Leehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14931436821182962785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4266200265116124990.post-61411568062862542732015-10-06T13:11:05.719+01:002015-10-06T13:11:05.719+01:00Wonderful !Wonderful !Asslessmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09475252828835332056noreply@blogger.com